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		<title>By: FutureNurse12</title>
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		<dc:creator>FutureNurse12</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Oct 2011 11:25:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know it&#039;s been awhile since this has been posted, but I just had to respond to  A Whinging Nurse; I couldn&#039;t believe what you wrote! First of all, as the other women wrote, Nurses may not have a MD, but they sure as hell are as smart as Dr&#039;s! They are the ones at the bedside 24/7, they are the ones catching the dr&#039;s mistakes. In other words they have to know just as much as the doc, and know what to do with that info. If Nurses weren&#039;t capable of  understanding the advanced concepts, they wouldnt be allowed to get the advanced degree of Nurse Practitioner (by the way most people would rather go to an NP over an MD....and nurses are stupid?)&#039;
Secondly, if you are really a dr as you claim to be, you deserve to have your license taken away for that comment. You are absolutely incorrect about  bugs not being spread by stethoscopes; I am a Paramedic, and we were given several studies in Medic school about that very thing! There has been much research done on the topic, and just as these bugs live on gloves, ad yes, bed rails , one of the quickes ways to spread patient to patient is the stethoscope and mens ties! This is why we wipe our stethoscopes  with an alcohol wipe after every patient. There are even stethoscopes now that have disposable covers, so you can just throw it away after each patient.
Like I said,I highly doubt you are a real doc, as this is Epidemiology/Infectious disease 101, and something they teach from day one in any program; paramedic, nursing, or medical. Next time you want to write something like that, do your research, and get your facts straight first, otherwise you just sound ridiculous .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know it&#8217;s been awhile since this has been posted, but I just had to respond to  A Whinging Nurse; I couldn&#8217;t believe what you wrote! First of all, as the other women wrote, Nurses may not have a MD, but they sure as hell are as smart as Dr&#8217;s! They are the ones at the bedside 24/7, they are the ones catching the dr&#8217;s mistakes. In other words they have to know just as much as the doc, and know what to do with that info. If Nurses weren&#8217;t capable of  understanding the advanced concepts, they wouldnt be allowed to get the advanced degree of Nurse Practitioner (by the way most people would rather go to an NP over an MD&#8230;.and nurses are stupid?)&#8217;<br />
Secondly, if you are really a dr as you claim to be, you deserve to have your license taken away for that comment. You are absolutely incorrect about  bugs not being spread by stethoscopes; I am a Paramedic, and we were given several studies in Medic school about that very thing! There has been much research done on the topic, and just as these bugs live on gloves, ad yes, bed rails , one of the quickes ways to spread patient to patient is the stethoscope and mens ties! This is why we wipe our stethoscopes  with an alcohol wipe after every patient. There are even stethoscopes now that have disposable covers, so you can just throw it away after each patient.<br />
Like I said,I highly doubt you are a real doc, as this is Epidemiology/Infectious disease 101, and something they teach from day one in any program; paramedic, nursing, or medical. Next time you want to write something like that, do your research, and get your facts straight first, otherwise you just sound ridiculous .</p>
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		<title>By: Hui Parhan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hui Parhan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 16:23:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great blog. Can&#039;t wait to start my own blog.</description>
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		<title>By: Emily weston</title>
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		<dc:creator>Emily weston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 07:24:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the bedrails aren&#039;t covered in micro-organisms, then by default, they must be sterile. If organisms only live on the skin and around wounds, then tell me, whinging nurse, would you be comfortable, perhaps, eating something that was sitting on the bed in a patient&#039;s room? There apparently aren&#039;t any micro-organisms on it-they only live on skin.
I know it is about a year after you posted this, but thanks for calling out the doc! I&#039;m sure the epi-nurse did her job-in my place, those women scare everyone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the bedrails aren&#8217;t covered in micro-organisms, then by default, they must be sterile. If organisms only live on the skin and around wounds, then tell me, whinging nurse, would you be comfortable, perhaps, eating something that was sitting on the bed in a patient&#8217;s room? There apparently aren&#8217;t any micro-organisms on it-they only live on skin.<br />
I know it is about a year after you posted this, but thanks for calling out the doc! I&#8217;m sure the epi-nurse did her job-in my place, those women scare everyone.</p>
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		<title>By: Amber</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 23:58:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love this post.  It just drives home everything that is true about the spread of infection within the Hospital.  I come back to read it now and again.  As a result, I just read the response posted by &quot;A Whinging Nurse&quot;.  While you accuse nurses of knowing all there is to know about medicine without a degree, it is rather obvious that you know nothing at all.  Organisms DO live on all surfaces and your stethescope most certainly can tranfer them.  If you are a doctor, which I doubt, your likely an intern who is an ass towards nurses and they&#039;ve paid you back by calling your dumb ass out time and time again.  Hopefully, in front of your superiors.  The best Doctors are the Doc&#039;s who have done the research, know what they&#039;re talking about before they open their mouths (and post blogs), and respect the fact that while RN&#039;s don&#039;t have a medical degree, the do, in fact, know what they&#039;re talking about.  We too have access to the research, and we are the ones who spend day in and day out with patients, all while suffering at the hands of asses like you.  I doubt you&#039;ll ever read this, but I just had to vent.  

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I wish for you a raging case of C-Diff, likely caused by your blatent disregard for infection control.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love this post.  It just drives home everything that is true about the spread of infection within the Hospital.  I come back to read it now and again.  As a result, I just read the response posted by &#8220;A Whinging Nurse&#8221;.  While you accuse nurses of knowing all there is to know about medicine without a degree, it is rather obvious that you know nothing at all.  Organisms DO live on all surfaces and your stethescope most certainly can tranfer them.  If you are a doctor, which I doubt, your likely an intern who is an ass towards nurses and they&#8217;ve paid you back by calling your dumb ass out time and time again.  Hopefully, in front of your superiors.  The best Doctors are the Doc&#8217;s who have done the research, know what they&#8217;re talking about before they open their mouths (and post blogs), and respect the fact that while RN&#8217;s don&#8217;t have a medical degree, the do, in fact, know what they&#8217;re talking about.  We too have access to the research, and we are the ones who spend day in and day out with patients, all while suffering at the hands of asses like you.  I doubt you&#8217;ll ever read this, but I just had to vent.  </p>
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I wish for you a raging case of C-Diff, likely caused by your blatent disregard for infection control.</p>
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		<title>By: kasey</title>
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		<dc:creator>kasey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 08:41:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am so glad you told him about himself. I am soooooo sick of these damn doctors!!!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am so glad you told him about himself. I am soooooo sick of these damn doctors!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Jess</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 16:56:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It ain&#039;t for that doctor that isolation is necessary!  It&#039;s for the rest of the patients that he will infect with C-Diff!  Stupid disease spreading rot-brain ass, I hope he dies of a hospital born illness, being ignored by his own doctor, in pain and shitting himself to death.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It ain&#8217;t for that doctor that isolation is necessary!  It&#8217;s for the rest of the patients that he will infect with C-Diff!  Stupid disease spreading rot-brain ass, I hope he dies of a hospital born illness, being ignored by his own doctor, in pain and shitting himself to death.</p>
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		<title>By: pat</title>
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		<dc:creator>pat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 03:17:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I really meant to say was, where I work we have come to the conclusion that isolation is only for the nurses. Patients who have MRSA in the nares are isolated in the hospital, but when they transfer to our unit (consisting of rehab, hospice, or long-term care, they are not isolated for nares MRSA because they want our section to be more &quot;homelike.&quot; Patients in isolation are allowed to be out of their rooms, as well.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I really meant to say was, where I work we have come to the conclusion that isolation is only for the nurses. Patients who have MRSA in the nares are isolated in the hospital, but when they transfer to our unit (consisting of rehab, hospice, or long-term care, they are not isolated for nares MRSA because they want our section to be more &#8220;homelike.&#8221; Patients in isolation are allowed to be out of their rooms, as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Pat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 03:13:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow! What fun!
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		<title>By: geena</title>
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		<dc:creator>geena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2008 06:47:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dunno what that epidemiology nurse did, but last time I saw that doc go into an isolation room, he put &quot;all that shit&quot; on.

I pointed out in the comments above which organism it was that does not respond to alcohol gel.

Bacteria absolutely colonize on bed rails and stethoscopes.  Do a little research.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dunno what that epidemiology nurse did, but last time I saw that doc go into an isolation room, he put &#8220;all that shit&#8221; on.</p>
<p>I pointed out in the comments above which organism it was that does not respond to alcohol gel.</p>
<p>Bacteria absolutely colonize on bed rails and stethoscopes.  Do a little research.</p>
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		<title>By: A whinging nurse</title>
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		<dc:creator>A whinging nurse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 19:44:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a joke it was to read this post. Whilst I appreciate nurses like to claim to know everything about medicine without actually getting a medical degree, this &#039;post&#039; just highlights this fact plainly.

What organisms live on bed rails? seriously. That so fucking LOL. Micro-organisms live on the skin, period and normally in or around the site of a wound not willy fucking nilly on every inch of the skin and surrounding area.

So what he used his own stethoscope, there is NO STUDIES to show that stethoscopes harbour or carry infection and it is hilarious to suggest they do, where would a pathogen get anything that it needs to survive whilst living on a stethoscope. Comedy.

The fact all you could say is &quot;one&quot; of the organisms doesn&#039;t respond to alcohol gel instead of being the all so mighty nurse and knowing WHICH organism it was (C.Diff) and the fact that it is THE ONLY organism depending on serotype that isn&#039;t killed by alcohol gel and can you tell me dr.nurse why it isn&#039;t of course you can&#039;t because your probably dreaming up the other nonexistant bacteria that can&#039;t be killed by alcohol gel.

Reported to the epidemiology nurse, hilarity what is she going to do, EPIDEMIOLOGY go and look at what that actually means, being a nurse she will probably have a hard enough time understanding the term, never mind doing the job. At best she will look at rates of a specific incident,disease,infection,whatever will she understand the microbiology, physiology or pharmacology of the drugs needed to treat the infection. Don&#039;t make me laugh anymore.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a joke it was to read this post. Whilst I appreciate nurses like to claim to know everything about medicine without actually getting a medical degree, this &#8216;post&#8217; just highlights this fact plainly.</p>
<p>What organisms live on bed rails? seriously. That so fucking LOL. Micro-organisms live on the skin, period and normally in or around the site of a wound not willy fucking nilly on every inch of the skin and surrounding area.</p>
<p>So what he used his own stethoscope, there is NO STUDIES to show that stethoscopes harbour or carry infection and it is hilarious to suggest they do, where would a pathogen get anything that it needs to survive whilst living on a stethoscope. Comedy.</p>
<p>The fact all you could say is &#8220;one&#8221; of the organisms doesn&#8217;t respond to alcohol gel instead of being the all so mighty nurse and knowing WHICH organism it was (C.Diff) and the fact that it is THE ONLY organism depending on serotype that isn&#8217;t killed by alcohol gel and can you tell me dr.nurse why it isn&#8217;t of course you can&#8217;t because your probably dreaming up the other nonexistant bacteria that can&#8217;t be killed by alcohol gel.</p>
<p>Reported to the epidemiology nurse, hilarity what is she going to do, EPIDEMIOLOGY go and look at what that actually means, being a nurse she will probably have a hard enough time understanding the term, never mind doing the job. At best she will look at rates of a specific incident,disease,infection,whatever will she understand the microbiology, physiology or pharmacology of the drugs needed to treat the infection. Don&#8217;t make me laugh anymore.</p>
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