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	<title>Comments on: On the verge of what society finds acceptable?</title>
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		<title>By: Wink</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wink</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 20:24:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to agree with you. Giving the morphine would be a much more acceptable way to go. I&#039;m sure the parents had no idea that their baby was being given a paralytic agent, instead of a medication that would ease any pain the infant might experience. I would not participate in that either.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to agree with you. Giving the morphine would be a much more acceptable way to go. I&#8217;m sure the parents had no idea that their baby was being given a paralytic agent, instead of a medication that would ease any pain the infant might experience. I would not participate in that either.</p>
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		<title>By: JMo</title>
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		<dc:creator>JMo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jul 2007 20:22:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is no different than putting a pillow over someones face. Doing it with medical equipment /medication doesnt make it any better. It just makes it appear a little &quot;cleaner&quot;. I guess makeing it easier for that doc and parents to swallow.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is no different than putting a pillow over someones face. Doing it with medical equipment /medication doesnt make it any better. It just makes it appear a little &#8220;cleaner&#8221;. I guess makeing it easier for that doc and parents to swallow.</p>
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		<title>By: Kim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2007 10:34:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am speechless.  And nauseated.
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		<title>By: Lindsay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lindsay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2007 18:21:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s sick.  I mean, disturbingly so.  We give morphine to dying pts to help any perceived signs of pain/distress.  A depressed, (or ceased), respiratory drive is an expected side effect.  But, we do NOT give morphine with the INTENTION to stop the respiratory drive.  Pancuronium STOPS the respiratory muscles.  I think his license should be taken.  That was murder, plain and simple.  I am disgusted.  I would adamantly refuse to adminster that medication in that situation.  As the mother of a sick preemie, and an RN, it makes me cold to the core to think about what that child may have, and probabably did, experience.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s sick.  I mean, disturbingly so.  We give morphine to dying pts to help any perceived signs of pain/distress.  A depressed, (or ceased), respiratory drive is an expected side effect.  But, we do NOT give morphine with the INTENTION to stop the respiratory drive.  Pancuronium STOPS the respiratory muscles.  I think his license should be taken.  That was murder, plain and simple.  I am disgusted.  I would adamantly refuse to adminster that medication in that situation.  As the mother of a sick preemie, and an RN, it makes me cold to the core to think about what that child may have, and probabably did, experience.</p>
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		<title>By: Bobby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bobby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2007 03:51:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After being my best friend&#039;s care giver for two years,last summer I had her transfered to a beautiful new hospice here in the Denver area. I experienced exactly the conflict you just described. I cried buckets for a month because I thought that I had helped the hospice nurses kill her. Recently I read an article that suggested that the morphine doesn&#039;t really kill them, it calms the dyspnea and eases the pain. I totally agree with you on this. I wish he had stuck to the standard of palliative care.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After being my best friend&#8217;s care giver for two years,last summer I had her transfered to a beautiful new hospice here in the Denver area. I experienced exactly the conflict you just described. I cried buckets for a month because I thought that I had helped the hospice nurses kill her. Recently I read an article that suggested that the morphine doesn&#8217;t really kill them, it calms the dyspnea and eases the pain. I totally agree with you on this. I wish he had stuck to the standard of palliative care.</p>
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		<title>By: Beth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Beth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2007 15:56:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;What is very telling is that the mothers and fathers of babies X and Y fully supported the doctor&#039;s actions and were grateful to him&quot;. The whistle-blower, significantly, seems to have been the nursing staff.&quot;

Very telling, indeed. I&#039;m guessing the parents were grateful because they didn&#039;t actually understand what was going on.

This is a very disturbing to me. I can&#039;t wrap my mind around it either. I just can&#039;t conceive that actively dying while you are paralyzed is a &quot;peace and comfortable&quot; way to go.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;What is very telling is that the mothers and fathers of babies X and Y fully supported the doctor&#8217;s actions and were grateful to him&#8221;. The whistle-blower, significantly, seems to have been the nursing staff.&#8221;</p>
<p>Very telling, indeed. I&#8217;m guessing the parents were grateful because they didn&#8217;t actually understand what was going on.</p>
<p>This is a very disturbing to me. I can&#8217;t wrap my mind around it either. I just can&#8217;t conceive that actively dying while you are paralyzed is a &#8220;peace and comfortable&#8221; way to go.</p>
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